[USA] "Polecat's Oui-Oui Water"
[USA] "Polecat's Oui-Oui Water"
Hi,
I am looking for a marinade recipe that can be injected into pork shoulder.
Preferably a much loved family recipe. It can vary a lot as we all like garlic, chillies, plonk "oops wine" etc etc. The list is endless. I have several small injectors as well.
My idea was to roast some injected and marinated shoulder pieces this coming week-end as this cut of meat is on a special until sunday.
I probably stock up again as usual and cop a lot of flack as well. Ah well, that's married life.
Best Regards,
Jan.
I am looking for a marinade recipe that can be injected into pork shoulder.
Preferably a much loved family recipe. It can vary a lot as we all like garlic, chillies, plonk "oops wine" etc etc. The list is endless. I have several small injectors as well.
My idea was to roast some injected and marinated shoulder pieces this coming week-end as this cut of meat is on a special until sunday.
I probably stock up again as usual and cop a lot of flack as well. Ah well, that's married life.
Best Regards,
Jan.
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Try this one Jan. You might be surprised.
[USA] Polecat`s Oui Oui Water
(Meat Injection Marinade)
1 cup fresh lemon juice
1/2 cup extra virgin olive oil
1/2 cup flat lager beer
2 tblspns. wochestershire sauce
1 tblspn. cider vinegar
1 tspn lemon zest (without pith)
4 cloves garlic (pulverized)
3/4 tspn. red pepper flakes
3/4 tspn freshly cracked black pepper
1/2 tspn. kosher salt
1/3 cup parsley
1/4 cup fresh basil
Place the lemon zest, garlic cloves, pepper flakes, black pepper, salt, parsley, and basil into a food processor and pulverize the mixture using short bursts. Add the lemon juice and process 15 seconds more or until it is smooth. Add the vinegar and beer and process a few seconds more. Finally, add the olive oil in a thin stream while processing, until the mixture is smooth and thickens just a bit. Just before baking or barbecuing, inject smaller amounts (sparingly) into a number of pork shoulders or beef chucks in several places. The mixture is strong and does not need to "inundate" the meat.
Best Wishes,
Chuckwagon
[USA] Polecat`s Oui Oui Water
(Meat Injection Marinade)
1 cup fresh lemon juice
1/2 cup extra virgin olive oil
1/2 cup flat lager beer
2 tblspns. wochestershire sauce
1 tblspn. cider vinegar
1 tspn lemon zest (without pith)
4 cloves garlic (pulverized)
3/4 tspn. red pepper flakes
3/4 tspn freshly cracked black pepper
1/2 tspn. kosher salt
1/3 cup parsley
1/4 cup fresh basil
Place the lemon zest, garlic cloves, pepper flakes, black pepper, salt, parsley, and basil into a food processor and pulverize the mixture using short bursts. Add the lemon juice and process 15 seconds more or until it is smooth. Add the vinegar and beer and process a few seconds more. Finally, add the olive oil in a thin stream while processing, until the mixture is smooth and thickens just a bit. Just before baking or barbecuing, inject smaller amounts (sparingly) into a number of pork shoulders or beef chucks in several places. The mixture is strong and does not need to "inundate" the meat.
Best Wishes,
Chuckwagon
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Glad to hear it John. Here's a little secret that you might remember when using beer in sausage:
Beer In Sausage - What Type?
During fermentation, yeast produces alcohol, carbon dioxide, and sulfur compounds. All three elements contribute to unique flavors in food, just ask any bread-maker. But hold on! All three elements are naturally present together in another favorite location - a bottle of beer! So we can use beer in pancake batter, sourdough bread, and of course, our favorite home-made sausage right? Whoaaa pards! There a hitch in this giddyup!
In food, it's best to use the type of beer (Lager) which uses a process called "bottom fermentation" where the yeast is kept submerged in the low-oxygen environment at the bottom of the "wort" (grain mashed in hot water) at colder temperatures. This causes the yeast to produce fewer phenols and esters, allowing "breadier" yeast and sulfur flavors to become dominant.
In non-lager beers (Pilsner), a process called "top fermentation" is used, whereby yeast floats on top of the wort becoming exposed to oxygen and kept warm. What`s the problem? Oxygen and heat persuade yeast to produce spicy, astringent flavor compounds called "esters" that are desirable in beer... but not in food. And not in your best sausage recipe!
So pards, if you use beer in ol` grandpappy`s secret sausage recipe... (you know the one... "King Kong Kielbasa", the sausage recipe handed down from good ol` Uncle Paul and Cousin Peter in the old country... through generations of time), then read the label on the bottle and make sure you`re using a Lager beer.
Best Wishes,
Chuckwagon
Beer In Sausage - What Type?
During fermentation, yeast produces alcohol, carbon dioxide, and sulfur compounds. All three elements contribute to unique flavors in food, just ask any bread-maker. But hold on! All three elements are naturally present together in another favorite location - a bottle of beer! So we can use beer in pancake batter, sourdough bread, and of course, our favorite home-made sausage right? Whoaaa pards! There a hitch in this giddyup!
In food, it's best to use the type of beer (Lager) which uses a process called "bottom fermentation" where the yeast is kept submerged in the low-oxygen environment at the bottom of the "wort" (grain mashed in hot water) at colder temperatures. This causes the yeast to produce fewer phenols and esters, allowing "breadier" yeast and sulfur flavors to become dominant.
In non-lager beers (Pilsner), a process called "top fermentation" is used, whereby yeast floats on top of the wort becoming exposed to oxygen and kept warm. What`s the problem? Oxygen and heat persuade yeast to produce spicy, astringent flavor compounds called "esters" that are desirable in beer... but not in food. And not in your best sausage recipe!
So pards, if you use beer in ol` grandpappy`s secret sausage recipe... (you know the one... "King Kong Kielbasa", the sausage recipe handed down from good ol` Uncle Paul and Cousin Peter in the old country... through generations of time), then read the label on the bottle and make sure you`re using a Lager beer.
Best Wishes,
Chuckwagon
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably needs more time on the grill!
Hang on there, Pardner. I home brew a bit, and use German lager yeast for my pils. You're thinking of ale yeast, which is a top fermenting yeast. (Many of the British beers use this type.)Chuckwagon wrote: In non-lager beers (Pilsner), a process called "top fermentation" is used
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Another gluten free beer widely available in the US is Red Bridge. Seems like it is sorghum-based. It and Bard's aren't the best beers in the world, but if you are gluten sensitive... well, ya gotta do what ya gotta do. I keep some handy for "she who must be obeyed," which leaves more pilsner for me. ...all in all, very workable.
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Hi Duck, where ya been? You shouldn't stray away too far from this hotbed of information!
You wrote:
P.S. I thought I was the only one with one of those, "She who must be obeyed".
You wrote:
I got the information from the food scientists at America's Test Kitchen in Boston.Hang on there, Pardner. You're thinking of ale yeast, which is a top fermenting yeast.
P.S. I thought I was the only one with one of those, "She who must be obeyed".
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably needs more time on the grill!
Yeah, I enjoy their shows, too, but take 'em with a grain of salt. They tend to have a New Englander's take on things (especially spicing, which Vermonter Chris Kimball doesn't like). ...and what they did to a so-called Texas-style barbequed brisket would make your blood boil.Chuckwagon wrote:I got the information from the food scientists at America's Test Kitchen in Boston.
...but they do have interesting ideas about what's important in order to hit targets like doneness, crispness, texture, et cetera. ...great show, but caveat emptor.
Experience - the ability to instantly recognize a mistake when you make it again.
It is not a unique thing Chuck, only it is more properly "She Who Must Be Obeyed" caps and quotes requiredChuckwagon wrote: P.S. I thought I was the only one with one of those, "She who must be obeyed".
I'll be doing a trial run with the marinade. I'm always up to trying something new!
73 de Allen, W1SBY
Yeah, it's funny but the best dishes are often the simplest ones. That's what I do for brisket- - black pepper and a little salt, smoked low and slow.
My wife's first roast, she read in her cookbook that it should cook for half an hour per pound, so she cooked the four-pound piece of beef at four divided by 1/2 or eight hours. I praised her, of course. We sawed the poor thing open, scooped out the insides, and they were quite good. ...and nowadays, I do the cooking and the math.
My wife's first roast, she read in her cookbook that it should cook for half an hour per pound, so she cooked the four-pound piece of beef at four divided by 1/2 or eight hours. I praised her, of course. We sawed the poor thing open, scooped out the insides, and they were quite good. ...and nowadays, I do the cooking and the math.
Experience - the ability to instantly recognize a mistake when you make it again.