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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 15:14
by Shuswap
Brican wrote: "But clearly someone that did not know what he was on about at times ;)"

Geez Robert leave it alone

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 00:39
by Kijek
Ya know what call me old fashion or whatever else you want.

I learned from an off the boat Italian on who taught me how to make dry cured sausage, cappicola, soppressota, and proscutto ( I can't spell ), the old fashion way.

It has been hard for me, to change, but I do understand the inportance of some things like cure #1 & #2 and bac600.
Otherthen that, I just don't get it, what is up with all these additives?

When I learned to make sausage and/or the other meats, I learned to use salt and salt only and that stuff was the best ever.

Today I will use the cures #1 or #2, as well as the bac 600, and besides that I just don't get it.

I feel the industry has built this up to be a money maker for them, selling us all kinds of stuff for making sausage, just like the commercial companies do, why all we need is salt & maybe the cures for safety.

I just made a batch of sausage to dry in my chamber, I used salt, and half the cure needed.

I just tasted it today, the best I ever made, much like my father in-law made.

I just don't get it?

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 01:06
by StefanS
Kijek wrote:Ya know what call me old fashion or whatever else you want.

I learned from an off the boat Italian on who taught me how to make dry cured sausage, cappicola, soppressota, and proscutto ( I can't spell ), the old fashion way.

It has been hard for me, to change, but I do understand the inportance of some things like cure #1 & #2 and bac600.
Otherthen that, I just don't get it, what is up with all these additives?

When I learned to make sausage and/or the other meats, I learned to use salt and salt only and that stuff was the best ever.

Today I will use the cures #1 or #2, as well as the bac 600, and besides that I just don't get it.

I feel the industry has built this up to be a money maker for them, selling us all kinds of stuff for making sausage, just like the commercial companies do, why all we need is salt & maybe the cures for safety.

I just made a batch of sausage to dry in my chamber, I used salt, and half the cure needed.

I just tasted it today, the best I ever made, much like my father in-law made.

I just don't get it?
yup.... before we were using horses and carriages but now we are using nice computerized cars just one example -
but think about cellphones, computers etc. :idea:

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 01:07
by Kijek
Stefans, I read the thread, it does not justify all this stuff we put into our product, what maybe only to speed up the process.

I just don't get it, and I'm finally coming out of the closet on this subject and will stand firm.

I do not see the need for all this stuff, I've tried to understand, but it's just not working.

I guess I'm gonna be one of those old stubborn farts in here that can't see the light.

And I'm only 57 & 1/2 :grin:

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 01:16
by Laftpig
Kijek

Really? You`ve got to be kidding right? You have no comprehension about safety. You post incessantly but in most cases haven`t a clue what this hobby is about. Your comments show your ignorance about the subject. Your right you don`t get it.

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 01:33
by Kijek
Oh relax, your right, I don't know much, I only know what I was taught by my father in-law, that's it.

I've tried to study up on things, and "YES" I get the safety thing, I went to culinary school for 3 years.

However, in the past they only used salt and till this day "only" salt is still a practice. But we do now use the "CURES", which I'm all for, after that I just don't get it.

Is it because of the additive, your trying to achieve, or develop some special?

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 02:12
by Kijek
Oh yah and cell phones and computers have done so much to improve this world.

I bet you both believe in globe warming and the lockness monster too.

Talk about ignorance, your bother probably just about 18 years old, because you know nothing about the way things were done back in the good ol'days.

You know very little. A H

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 16:53
by Kijek
Oh no I got the book, but me being Polish, I figured I didn't have to read every page. :oops:

I like and can see the advantages of using a separate box and/or chamber for fermentation.


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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 17:03
by Bob K
" if you had purchased the book The Art of Making Fermented sausage like you were going too...:

Ah details.....Wrong book!

https://www.amazon.com/The-Art-Making-F ... KWAKIZOORM[/u]

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 17:11
by Kijek
Ooo Boy!
Going on Amazon now, geezzzz what's wrong with me these days. :???:


UPDATE: The book will be here Thursday and one good thing about Amazon, once you purchase the book for delivery, you can immediately start reading the book on line through "Kindle"

I'm already reading, be back soon. Thanks BobK

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 01:58
by Kijek
Snow and sleet tomorrow. Welcome to New England!
Can't wait to leave, thank you Malloy, who I know personally, A Hole!

it was a brisk 84F here in Florida
I'll be heading your way soon, just waiting for my wife to retire, thinking on the Naples area